Comments on: But let’s not talk about gun control

By: Dimitrios

Dimitrios — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:45:27 +0000

Thanks for the link, GRS, and I love “Art’s” response to the ABC newscritter.

By: Axel Grease

Axel Grease — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 11:27:24 +0000

trust me on this
the ONLY thing that counts is when those ratings come out today and who had the most viewers……..
the news directors at the local stations in Hartford and New York are more concerned about “did they beat ABC/CBS/Fox” etc
than any affects of the stories

and the “news consultants” (and every station has one) are sitting there telling the news directors what to do, who to talk to and what angle to cover the school as to ensure the biggest audience possible

and i beg to disagree
the discussion on guns needs to start 20 years ago 0 – but never will
as much as politicians on the right are afraid of Rush
ALL POLITICIANS are petrified of the NRA

before the tv stations got their trucks to Newtown the NRA was issuing statements about how if guns were in the classrooms, the 6 year olds could have prevented this

this kind of tragedy will is just collateral damage to the NRA. there will never be change – never. americans love their guns more than their kids, their money or the lives of any one. guns and the NRA is hate of the govt on steroids. it is the ultimate fuck you to the US govt – and it has complete justification in the minds of the guns-nuts in the 2nd amendment.

this will never change – it hasnt in 200 years why should it now in this world of hyper govt-hating and uber-i got mine

before all the ice melts in antarctica will will systematically blow ourselves away

(sorry for being a downer)

By: GRS

GRS — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:15:38 +0000

Interesting NY Times article from 2000 on demographics of rampage killings. It doesn't have answers, but it has numbers. As for the news circus around this story at the moment:

By: Mr618

Mr618 — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 05:15:52 +0000

TG, Van Zandt also mentioned that there are about 20 mass murders per year… or one about every two-and-a-half weeks (give or take a day or two). Sadly, we have become so immune to the horrors of these situations that they don’t even make the news unless they’re particularly grusome. It used to be “if it bleeds, it leads;” now even that is passe.

Tomorrow is the time for the discussion. But it needs to be one-sided… without the nutjobs.

By: Another Kiwi

Another Kiwi — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 02:22:52 +0000

Techie, even though I live in New Zealand I think that you have to do something about your gun culture, too many good Americans will be lost to massacres. And it is extremely painful to talk about now and will be for the forseeable future but I think that you need to do it, I think that the heartwrenching scenarios you talked about are the reason that you need to get started. It won’t be resolved anytime soon but doing the usual is not an option.

By: TheCunningRunt

TheCunningRunt — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:20:40 +0000

…And while the specifics of this awful mass murder are basically IRRELEVANT to the debate over gun control in the U.S., I agree that today is not the day for that debate. Today we have a different kind of work to do, the work of grieving.

TOMORROW is the day for that debate. Not sooner, not later. We’ve had seven such senseless mass murders this year, out of sixty-something over the last thirty.

LET’S GET ON IT.

By: TheCunningRunt

TheCunningRunt — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:06:44 +0000

I spent today splitting wood which was wavering in my sight through the tears.

GOD DAMN IT!

And at this very moment the defense of guns grows louder on the Netz, drowning out the sobbing of parents who died inside when their children didn’t come out of that school.

By: Tengrain

Tengrain — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 00:32:54 +0000

Techie -

Agreed, sort of.

I’ve been depressed all day over this, and have had those thoughts, too; strangely I focused on where the presents are hidden and what will the parents do when they run across them in the years to come?

But I still come back to the way we are drowning in gun violence in the US.

Rgds,

By: Some Techie

Some Techie — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 23:59:42 +0000

Might we for a moment consider the presents that will not be opened by the kids whose names are already on the tags? Maybe consider the Christmas cards with suddenly outdated family pictures or signatures. How about the Christmas art projects left behind by the kids who were shot? Ever think about the third-grader who just had his/her best friend killed?

Seriously, guys, you need to refocus your comments.

By: knowdoubt

knowdoubt — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 23:45:29 +0000

Well, the answer is MORE GUNS, I promise you, it won’t be anytime before a wingnut suggests the children should have been armed – you know with “smaller type arms” like 22 pistols or better yet concealed derringers which might help keep the teachers from getting out of line and teaching evolutionary doctrine or other evils.

By: Mr DeBakey

Mr DeBakey — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 23:28:26 +0000

I see Reverend Fishman has been covering himself in glory again today.

Y’know
Sometimes I think that Asshole deserves some
Second Amendment action on his ankles,
a month or so later on his knees,
one full moon later his elbows
and so forth
Just like Bible says.

By: zombie rotten mcdonald

zombie rotten mcdonald — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 22:34:22 +0000

The China attack was just as deadly….Oh wait, NO IT WASN’T. Not a single person died in that attack.

The difference? Guns.

By: Capt. Bat Guano

Capt. Bat Guano — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:42:48 +0000

To those insane POS’s that say it’s Not Time To Talk About Gun Control….FUCK YOU, you are done assholes, you had a good long run. It is time, right here and now to have a grown up conversation followed by strict restrictions to access.

By: Canadian Observer

Canadian Observer — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:40:43 +0000

Yes violence does happen everywhere it’s true but why do so many of these tragedies happen in a country where the right to bear arms is considered sacred? Time & time again American citizens are mowed down by some insane lunatic armed with weapons that are banned in other civilized nations. I realize that the NRA is a very powerful organization in the U.S., but how many more innocents will be sacrificed in order to uphold the 2nd. Amendment? I mourn for those who were killed today and for those who will die in future mass murders perpetrated by gun wielding psychopaths.

By: Axel grease

Axel grease — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:49:26 +0000

It’s never a good time to talk about guns since the NRA runs the country.

By: Bruce388

Bruce388 — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:40:40 +0000

It’s been quite some time since the last drive-by stabbing.