Comments on: The Public Library http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:04:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: No More Mr. Nice Guy! http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763&cpage=1#comment-111652 No More Mr. Nice Guy! Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:28:48 +0000 http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763#comment-111652 As a Phoenix resident who spends a lot of time in San Jose, I apologize that you are getting our overflow of religious lunatics. Personally I think every church should be torn down and a library put in its place. I can see why the loonies feel threatened by libraries although I don't know if it is a conscious strategy to attack libraries - the fundies aren't that smart. I think it's just that the christian meme evolved ignorance and knowledge-avoidance as a survival strategy. As a Phoenix resident who spends a lot of time in San Jose, I apologize that you are getting our overflow of religious lunatics. Personally I think every church should be torn down and a library put in its place. I can see why the loonies feel threatened by libraries although I don’t know if it is a conscious strategy to attack libraries – the fundies aren’t that smart. I think it’s just that the christian meme evolved ignorance and knowledge-avoidance as a survival strategy.

]]> By: carnival of the liberals #52 « yikes! http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763&cpage=1#comment-111468 carnival of the liberals #52 « yikes! Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:55:49 +0000 http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763#comment-111468 [...] When I first met this next blogger we both decided we must have bee separated at birth. It was like meeting my twin brother — only he got all the looks! Tengrain, from Mock, Paper, Scissors, couldn’t be with us in person, but he was certainly there in spirit. And as usual, he presents a compelling argument for why church-state separation is so important in his post The Public Library. [...] [...] When I first met this next blogger we both decided we must have bee separated at birth. It was like meeting my twin brother — only he got all the looks! Tengrain, from Mock, Paper, Scissors, couldn’t be with us in person, but he was certainly there in spirit. And as usual, he presents a compelling argument for why church-state separation is so important in his post The Public Library. [...]

]]> By: Luminiferous Ether http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763&cpage=1#comment-109604 Luminiferous Ether Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:07:29 +0000 http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763#comment-109604 "City Council members opposing filters risk being accused of being in favor of children looking at smut." It would be a scary place to be, but city council members COULD stand up and dispute that. I mean, like Edward R. Murrow, in the face of Joe McCarthy's tactics did. People have to stop being cowed by loudmouth fascist bullies. It is scary, but until they do, the bullies will continue to win. Excellent post. And I'll say again, if you get a chance go and see the movie, "The Hollywood Librarian." It will move you to tears. “City Council members opposing filters risk being accused of being in favor of children looking at smut.”
It would be a scary place to be, but city council members COULD stand up and dispute that. I mean, like Edward R. Murrow, in the face of Joe McCarthy’s tactics did. People have to stop being cowed by loudmouth fascist bullies. It is scary, but until they do, the bullies will continue to win.

Excellent post. And I’ll say again, if you get a chance go and see the movie, “The Hollywood Librarian.” It will move you to tears.

]]> By: Morse http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763&cpage=1#comment-109598 Morse Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:57:53 +0000 http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763#comment-109598 Of course shutting the doors would be the ultimate filter, but then who would have access to WorldNetDaily, or the National Review, or Jonah Goldberg's soon never to be published book? Of course there's always the Starr Report. Of course shutting the doors would be the ultimate filter, but then who would have access to WorldNetDaily, or the National Review, or Jonah Goldberg’s soon never to be published book? Of course there’s always the Starr Report.

]]> By: ellroon http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763&cpage=1#comment-109449 ellroon Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:13:09 +0000 http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763#comment-109449 My son is at a college campus where jesus-freaks come on to the grounds and often into the library. They bring their kids on whom they have written Jesus in Sharpie on their foreheads. They will sit down in the center of a crowded walkway and scream that education will be everyone's downfall, that education is evil. Personally I don't see the attraction to joining a group that yells all the time, but obviously they have a point. Education is really difficult for stupid people. I collect books and cannot see a world without libraries, but have to admit I do not use one. What I want, I buy or have or find on the net. But for those who are not making their houses slowly subside into the ground from all the books, libraries are the great equalizer. When Andrew Carnegie was making amends to the community for having been a robber baron... he built libraries. No wonder the fundies want to shut them down. My son is at a college campus where jesus-freaks come on to the grounds and often into the library. They bring their kids on whom they have written Jesus in Sharpie on their foreheads. They will sit down in the center of a crowded walkway and scream that education will be everyone’s downfall, that education is evil.

Personally I don’t see the attraction to joining a group that yells all the time, but obviously they have a point. Education is really difficult for stupid people.

I collect books and cannot see a world without libraries, but have to admit I do not use one. What I want, I buy or have or find on the net. But for those who are not making their houses slowly subside into the ground from all the books, libraries are the great equalizer. When Andrew Carnegie was making amends to the community for having been a robber baron… he built libraries.

No wonder the fundies want to shut them down.

]]> By: Robert Rouse http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763&cpage=1#comment-109436 Robert Rouse Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:15:06 +0000 http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763#comment-109436 Nice post! I will definitely be using this post in today's <a href="http://www.blogworldreport.com" rel="nofollow">Blog World Report</a>. Nice post! I will definitely be using this post in today’s Blog World Report.

]]> By: Sorghum Crow http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763&cpage=1#comment-109350 Sorghum Crow Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:20:29 +0000 http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763#comment-109350 Libraries are evil. They have information. And differing opinions. How can that be good? Discalimer: I am on the board at my local library, a tiny place supported in (small)part by the town and mostly by donation and fund raising, along the lines of public radio. Our official status is public but not municipal, (email me if you want to donate, sorry no pledge gifts). We have no filters and the only book censorship is by choice of acquisitions. Libraries are evil. They have information. And differing opinions. How can that be good?

Discalimer: I am on the board at my local library, a tiny place supported in (small)part by the town and mostly by donation and fund raising, along the lines of public radio. Our official status is public but not municipal, (email me if you want to donate, sorry no pledge gifts).
We have no filters and the only book censorship is by choice of acquisitions.

]]> By: darkblack http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763&cpage=1#comment-109256 darkblack Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:32:17 +0000 http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763#comment-109256 I would opine that the so-called 'church folk' who dabble in censorship take note of the less-timid members of their flock who stride confidently through the secular world without fear of taint or temptation, and do so without forcing their faith on others less receptive. Should they prove unable to resist such urges, they would do well to examine a belief so weak as to require enforced participation. Fight on, T. I would opine that the so-called ‘church folk’ who dabble in censorship take note of the less-timid members of their flock who stride confidently through the secular world without fear of taint or temptation, and do so without forcing their faith on others less receptive.
Should they prove unable to resist such urges, they would do well to examine a belief so weak as to require enforced participation.

Fight on, T.

]]> By: fairlane http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763&cpage=1#comment-109223 fairlane Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:26:17 +0000 http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763#comment-109223 You also have to remember the Neo-Cons want to destroy the government, and everything it funds, except of course the War Machine. You also have to remember the Neo-Cons want to destroy the government, and everything it funds, except of course the War Machine.

]]> By: pissed in NYC http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763&cpage=1#comment-109191 pissed in NYC Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:46:05 +0000 http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=5763#comment-109191 The one thing on our side? Those assholes will only make the "bad" sites more desirable for kids who will find a way to access them. The one thing on our side? Those assholes will only make the “bad” sites more desirable for kids who will find a way to access them.

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