Christmas came early?
AP
A new poll shows that Independent Senator Joe Lieberman, who left the Democratic Party after losing the Senate primary to businessman Ned Lamont in 2006, would “get crushed” if challenged by Connecticut’s State Attorney General Richard Blumentha in 2012.
The poll does not show one — even close — winning scenario for Traitor Joe.
A lot can happen in four years, but right now it doesn’t look like Lieberman has too many options. He can’t run as a Democrat, he would still lose as a Republican, and there’s no reason to believe that staying as an independent will provide much more of an opportunity.
Jebus on a rubber crutch, looks like scomping all that Rethug pud really wrinkles up a guys kisser.
It’s AT LEAST a toss-up that if Blumenthal or Lamont ran against Lieberman in 2012, Obama would barnstorm for Holy Joe just like he did last time.
I have a feeling, Kelso, that by 2012 (when the Carebear is up for re-election), the last thing he will want to do is have a millstone like Traitor Joe around his neck.
Regards,
Tengrain
Birds of a feather, Buddy, birds of a feather
Well sure, Tengrain, since he’ll have the Economy of Fuckery to deal with, kissing Israel’s ass in the face of The Greatest Threat Since Hitler®, Evil Mahmoud, and a bunch of other stuff that’s a state secret so I’ll just stop right now.
Blumenthal might end up in a 2010 primary against Dodd with all the crap he has done lately. We tried to warn Nutmeggers and gave them a decent candidate in Ned Lamont as an alternative to Lieberman’s unique style of bipartisan neoconservatism. WTF did we know, eh? Oh yeah… Everything.
Gosh, my old pal Joe’s looking a little sour…I so hate too see him all tied up in knots like this.
;>)
Ha – the clown nose did me in, Darkblack! Rgds, T.G.
Ahh that’s great to hear!
Joementum is a fucking douchebag.
However, I’m sorry to sound coldhearted but the good people of Connecticut had the opportunity to vote his ass out and replace him with a genuine liberal by the name of Ned Lamont. But alas, they chose to reward Holy Joe the Bush Licker with 6 more years where he could carry water for the GOP.
As much as I detest him (I’d like to tie him down and force him to eat raw pork), but unless he resigns from the senate, he and Connecticut are joined at the hip until 2012.
It couldn’t happen to a more deserving turncoat.
Can we call this Karma?
looks like Joementum has a Losementum problem………..
At first I thought the photo was from the Westminster Dog show, then I realized that while some pups may have skin folds, they, at least, are cute. I hope he raises and pisses through millions of dollars from big pharm (Hadassah’s clients) and the insurance companies and goes down in flames.
I did not realize that the Sea Hag worked for big pharma! That explains a lot. Rgds, T.G.
Did he catch his face in the Hoover?
While visiting Condi at the Institute?
Christopher: the story of that race is one of the most interesting political tales I’ve ever read and I was reading it in the papers in real time. I’m surprised no journalist from the Register or Courant has written the book.
This was like a blood feud that went back 30 years and involved Howard Dean, Jim Dean, Lieberman, Lamont, Reverend William J Sloane Coffin, the Clintons, Obama, and even Carville and Harold Ford, Jr.
They were all together at Yale at the same time. Howard Dean and Joe Lieberman were both pretty taken with Sloane Coffin’s theology and activism class. Dean really got inspired and rode with Coffin on the buses to Alabama the whole nine yards. Lieberman really wasn’t that into activism because even as a student he was pretty conservative. So, he never went down on any of Coffin’s freedom ride buses. The former Republican Governor, Lowell Weicker, had been kind of a friend of Coffin’s as well as another mentor to the Dean brothers and Ned Lamont. In ’88 Lieberman ran as a conservative Democrat against Weicker’s left-wing independent campaign and Lieberman ran a very dirty campaign and managed to get past Weicker for the Senate seat.
So, come 2006, of all the Democratic upsets that Dean pulled off the one he really wanted most of all was for Lamont running as a pacifist against Lieberman. It was also kind of a farewell to Dr Coffin because either he was about to die or had just died or something like that. And the peace movement was such a crucial part of Coffin’s life.
So, OK in the primary the Clintons who had also been in Coffin’s classes as well as Obama who had no connection whatsoever to Yale or the peace movement came up to campaign for Lieberman in the primary. Fair enough. Lieberman and Clinton had been together in the DLC and Lieberman was Obama’s best friend in the Senate. So, Lamont pulls off the miracle upset and the Republican nominee whose name I don’t remember got jammed up in some bookmaking or shylocking scandal but he stayed in the race as a not factor and ended up with 6%.
The thing got ugly when the Clintons came up to campaign for Lieberman the independent against Lamont the Democrat. Then Obama comes up to campaign for Lieberman and it really gets weird. Lamont was leading in the polls just slightly. Lieberman went to all the Black churches with Obama and claimed to have gotten his head busted by Bull Connor or some such nonsense. Obama backed him up even though he had no way of knowing whether it was true or not.
Lieberman started to cut in to Lamont’s enormous lead with Black voters, from like 90-8-2 to 78-19-3 or something. Lieberman was getting 2/3 of the Jewish vote. They were splitting the Italian, Slavic and Irish vote. And Lamont was crushing with college students and WASPS. But all told that small move for Lieberman because of Obama in the Black vote ended up kindof deciding it even though Lamont dominated him in the category. So, there was a difference of opinion in the Lamont camp about whether to really blindside both Lieberman and Obama by showing Dr Coffin’s diaries that had a lot of notes about Lieberman’s lack of commitment to the civil rights effort, etc. In the end, they were afraid to exacerbate any Black-Jewish tensions. And they were afraid as WASPs that the other result, a politically anti-thetical Black-Jewish union FOR Lieberman could be worse than tensions. So, they let Lieberman and Obama spin these tall tales about Holy Joe standing shoulder to shoulder with John Lewis and shit like that.
OK, so now the election’s over. Lieberman wins it with a lot of help from the Clintons, Obama and Carville. So, now Obama and the Clintons go to Howard Dean and try to force him to resign as DNC chair so they could replace him with the conservative Black Democrat Harold Ford, jr, who’d lost to Corker in his Tennessee race. Dean said “fuck you, make me,” but I’m going to tell the Black community exactly what kind of liars both Lieberman and Obama are and I’ll make it my life’s work to ruin both of them.” So, they backed down and Dean kept his Chairmanship only to broker a deal whereby Clinton would not only concede but she’d not take one floor vote of the delegates. Dean essentially handed Obama the presidency on a silver platter.
This is the kind of person Obama is. He lobbied like crazy this year for Reid to keep Lieberman as committee chair. Meanwhile, Obama couldn’t be bothered to lobby Pelosi to keep Conyers in his chairman seat.
Kelso – damn, that is one fine story of intrigue! Thanks for sharing it. You’ve said for a while that Obama and Dean hated each other, but I never understood where it came from. I knew that Dean and the Clintons hated each other, and I knew that Lieberman and the Clintons loved each other (from the DLC crowd, which, by the way, I despise). It seems funny to me that Dean would essentially work to get the Carebear in office, but I suppose when the choice came down to him or Hillary, the decision was easy. Rgds, T.G.
Dean was a pretty fair-minded DNC chairman and was probably the best one they’ve ever had because of using the 50-state strategy which picked up some amazing congressional wins and cleared the way for Obama to do way better than expected in the Red States. I think the Democrats will probably have a nice electoral grasp on Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Virginia, and possibly North Carolina and Indiana. Arizona, North Dakota, Montana and Texas are going to be “Purple” sooner rather than later. The other great aspect to the 50-state strategy is that even if it doesn’t work at all it still forces Republicans to spend money defending in very conservative areas. Dean did a great job of keeping the issues of universal health care and ending the wars part of the party discussion even though the party is somewhat to his right on those issues. He was an honest broker in the sense that regionally-appropriate candidates in congressional races always had a chance to get big party support. In the Junior Rhode Island seat he got Sheldon Whitehouse one of the toughest and bravest progressives into a spot he can hold as long as he wants. He also recognized that half a loaf was always better than nothing and got the Democrats’ first true libertarian into the senate with Tester in Montana. And getting the Democratic Party to have a variety of views on guns was extremely important. The needs of people who live along the American part of the Virginia-Boston-Belfast-Moscow-Israel-Colombia-North-Carolina-Virginia assault weapon trade route have different views of guns than hunters and ranchers in the Mountain West do. And both views are valid.
I think that if Dean favored any particular candidates for president they were Chris Dodd and Dennis Kucinich. I don’t think he favored either Clinton or Obama over the other one and disliked each camp equally. He was no fan of Biden, Edwards or Richardson particularly either. Getting the candidate selected, nominated at the convention and financed for the General election was his job. There are a number of power bases in the Party: the Clintons, the Deans, the Kennedys, Obama, and disparate interests in West Los Angeles and Manhattan. In that set-up there cannot exist a situation in which Obama and the Clintons are in charge and Howard and Jim Dean are setting fund-raising or campaign policy. The Clintons and Obama would be down the pecking order if there were a progressive president. That’s natural and the clashing of egos is inevitable. And even the progressive wing of the party pertains to one camp or other. Whitehouse is a Dean guy. Leahy is a Kennedy guy. Feingold is an Obama guy. Boxer is mostly a Clinton gal. Bernie Sanders and Sherrod Brown thankfully have safe seats and don’t owe anybody anything.